Posts: 35 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A thing that isn't being spoke about is all the money being thrown at Ukraine is gonna have to be paid back By far - not all of the money, given to Ukraine, are credits. Majority of them are financial aid (not credits). Nobody is expecting these money to be returned. The same is applicable to the military aid. Posts: 22 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A July 12, 2022 at 10:28 PM There are no winners. Many white people dying for what. Zelensky has closed borders. Poor people who can not bribe border guards are drafted. Posts: 17 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A July 12, 2022 at 11:01 PM There are no winners in war.
Putin wants to have his stupid made russia great again bullshit before he dies. Apparently he has cancer anyway and is dead soon. For the sake of the rest of the world, I hope they give him some stupid trump treatment and write nicer things in the media. Give him some dignity in ending this war, otherwise he might feel tempted to just nuke the ukraine away with hydrogen bombs as the last thing on his bucketlist. It doesn't cost anything.
Russia will win this thing in the long run, regardless on how many weapons the US funnels inside, there are only so many ukrainans. Posts: 2 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A July 12, 2022 at 11:15 PM ukraine i think Posts: 92 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A How do you define "winning" the war?
Getting back the lost territory? Crippling the russian economy? Killing as much Russians as possible? Getting into NATO/ EU? Russian military defeat? Russia withdrawing troops from occupied territory and signing a peace treaty or ceasefire?
This is already a proxy war, WEST in war with Ukraine as its proxy vs Russia.
If I were to define "win" , it is Ukraine getting back lost territory, not only during the feb 2022 special ops but getting Crimea back as well.
Only way to win is for west to supply Ukraine with its most advanced weaponry to hit supply lines, and for the west to keep on sending supplies, funds to Ukraine. More damaging sanctions to cripple the economy and for the nations that still transacts with Russia to stop giving them money. Arm domestic and local insurgents in Russia to gain strength and sow chaos inside, even assasinate key political and military figures. Continue to win small battles and skirmishes as it will all add up. Demoralize Russian combatants and even sow fear and disobedience or even mutiny(?). For Anonymous and other symphatetic hackers and groups to keep on attacking vital infrastructure and feed propaganda and info to Russian civilization with what is happening in Ukraine which is suppressed by their media and news agencies.
This will be a long and grinding war, but it will be an uphill battle for Ukraine Posts: 154 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A Posts: 96 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A    (June 9, 2022, 03:56 PM)emilskin Wrote: The news are controversial some say Ukraine other Russia. What is your opinion? Russia just no media will report the truth. The media went from reporting Ukraine as far-right Neo Nazis to drinking their cum in gallons. Posts: 59 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A September 23, 2022 at 4:16 AM probably ukraine innit Posts: 14 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A September 26, 2022 at 4:59 AM Napoleon, Macedonian, Hitler, all tried to defeat Russia for centuries. But Russia is not a territory, it is a way of thinking where preferences are given not to material values, but to spiritual ones. And you think that Ukraine will take over Russia? Have you looked at the map? Ukraine weapons in the wrong hands. Go to Siberia, where the weather is warm in winter -50 degrees. Will you live there? Your weapon will simply freeze, and the equipment will come out of standing position. What fortitude is needed to live there? Posts: 14 Threads: 0 Joined: N/A September 26, 2022 at 5:13 AM (July 13, 2022, 01:26 AM)onetwothreefour Wrote: How do you define "winning" the war?
Getting back the lost territory? Crippling the russian economy? Killing as much Russians as possible? Getting into NATO/ EU? Russian military defeat? Russia withdrawing troops from occupied territory and signing a peace treaty or ceasefire?
This is already a proxy war, WEST in war with Ukraine as its proxy vs Russia.
If I were to define "win" , it is Ukraine getting back lost territory, not only during the feb 2022 special ops but getting Crimea back as well.
Only way to win is for west to supply Ukraine with its most advanced weaponry to hit supply lines, and for the west to keep on sending supplies, funds to Ukraine. More damaging sanctions to cripple the economy and for the nations that still transacts with Russia to stop giving them money. Arm domestic and local insurgents in Russia to gain strength and sow chaos inside, even assasinate key political and military figures. Continue to win small battles and skirmishes as it will all add up. Demoralize Russian combatants and even sow fear and disobedience or even mutiny(?). For Anonymous and other symphatetic hackers and groups to keep on attacking vital infrastructure and feed propaganda and info to Russian civilization with what is happening in Ukraine which is suppressed by their media and news agencies.
This will be a long and grinding war, but it will be an uphill battle for Ukraine Do you know that Russians have more ingenuity than the rest of the population? This ingenuity is based on centuries of experience of suffering and need. For example: while the Americans were inventing a pen for writing in space, the Russians were using an ordinary pencil. There are a lot of Russian programmers in Microsoft and the same in Google. so kill all the Russians fail. And many Russians don't support the war. So, the war is not being waged by Russians, but by politicians. And in general, politicians are needed only for war and nothing else. There will be no politicians, there will be no wars. |
