Who will win the Ukrain war?
by - Thursday, January 1, 1970 at 12:00 AM
Ukraine has already lost! When you have all your people displayed and most infrastructure destroyed? What other losses are you talking about
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(June 12, 2022, 03:36 PM)19689p Wrote: Ukraine has already lost!  When you have all your people displayed and most infrastructure destroyed? What other losses are you talking about


Most infrastructure is definitely not lost, if war would end now, they could very easily quickly rebuild. Especially with all the help. 

They aren't in Russia's hands yet and the resistance is still strong. It's not GG yet
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(June 10, 2022, 03:42 PM)NSA_Afterthought Wrote: No one wins in a modern day war


This remains to be seen!
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Ukraina will lose Donbass
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(June 13, 2022, 08:45 AM)mguy Wrote:
(June 10, 2022, 03:42 PM)NSA_Afterthought Wrote: No one wins in a modern day war


This remains to be seen!


No, he's right. There are no winners in war. Even if Russia topples Ukraine as a land grab, the whole world will clutch it's pearls in dismay
\"History is never fated to repeat, it just rhymes from time to time\"
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Fck Russia!. Let's go Kyiv for the win!   :pomkill:
:pomthink:  :pomlove:

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(June 9, 2022, 10:21 PM)terraluna Wrote: Ukraine has no freaking chance just look at the map how big Russia is.

They were tooling with them so far...


I'm afraid the extension of a country doesn't have much impact on their military capabilities. Let's have a look at few of them:

1. median age of the population: you need young and fit men and woman in order to fight. Russia median age is 40.3 years which is quite high.
2. population size: russia has approximately ~140 million population but it's shrinking, which means that every year less and less able-to-fight people are available
2. economic throughput to sustain your military campaigns: here the western sanctions will hit soon or later regardless of China.
3. natural resources (coal/oil and steel among others): Russia has plenty of those but it also rely on selling them abroad.
4. motivation to fight: Russia is a federation of states. Which means that lots of different ethnicity populates it. Soon or later, as the war fatigue will bite, the interests of those populations will diverge from russian ones.
5. and finally, land extension. Today, on its eastern and southern flanks ,russia is more vulnerable as less troops are available: an attack there might be not easily stopped.
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Its all because of the USA ! just like every other war the US started but this one will turn badly on them haha.
Putin is not Saddam or Keddafi or Bachar tho, Its funny when i see old head biden bicthing about what putin is doing while he forgets what him and obama did to others.
Anyways Putin will take the gold medal for this one
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1 thing that isn't being spoke about is all the money being thrown at Ukraine is gonna have to be paid back. The UK only finished paying its debts back to the US for WW2 in the 2000s.

Ukraine has to build back after the war, but its either going to be Europes bitch, or the country will default and go into a recession, maybe even be like the decade post WW2 in the UK with rationing. Though the EU is looking promising wth its impending membership, so Ukraine could be like the next Greece and drop the value of the Euro across the continent.
\"History is never fated to repeat, it just rhymes from time to time\"
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There will be no winners, RUssia already destroyed their present economy and future economy, soon will turn into a slight more advanced nation than NorthKorea, West countries will be poorer, the whole world will suffer great famine, specially the most poor countries, any outcome without the surrender of kiev is a lose battle for Russia, Putin is right now in denial.
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