Hi, I'm 16, my friend is doing refunding (using an FTID Lost In Transit method, then selling said item on the second hand market) and has dropped out of school completely, he is projected to make about £35k/ annum, this really hit a switch in me, if I am honest I felt extremely jealous since he is making money illegitimately, and he is a complete skid and lacks a lot of knowledge, however the thing is, I am well within the means to start doing refunding as I have the knowledge of how to do it and the contacts to facilitate it, on the other hand I doubt I will ever pursue anything morally questionable, or stealing from the "common man". He is also using his home address, which in kind of dumb.

So what would you do if you were in my situation?, I 100% have much more marketable and lucrative skills than your average teen and could pursue legitimate work (self-employed or working for someone) once I finish higher education. Personally, I would only pursue anything like this if I hit rock bottom and I became a (real) wage slave. What is the possibility of getting caught (for fraud and tax evasion, I doubt anyone is declaring criminal gains on their taxes), are there legal punishments (UK), one more thing is that yes £35k isn't that much, however for a 16-year-old that is like heaven since it will be compounding until adulthood since he has no expenses, I am also currently trying to make money legitimately through YouTube, freelancing, SaaS, ill probably focus on the one that I am most passionate about and is the most successful

If I were you I would eat my veggies and and not piss on bed everyday

Don't craft your future competing others. You'll hate yourself when seeing people like uncle jeff and daddy elon
Do what you love and want to do.

U sounds like a smart kid. Just do what ur passionate about and give it ur all. u willl make more money that way 😊 ( slower but long term u will be fine )

(November 3, 2022, 06:00 PM)banneduser Wrote: If I were you I would eat my veggies and and not piss on bed everyday

Don't craft your future competing others. You'll hate yourself when seeing people like uncle jeff and daddy elon
Do what you love and want to do.

(November 3, 2022, 06:04 PM)meme2133 Wrote: U sounds like a smart kid. Just do what ur passionate about and give it ur all. u willl make more money that way 😊 ( slower but long term u will be fine )

This might be the nicest way that you can call someone a bot lol, I don't want to be stupid rich or anything, I just living very comfortably, I kind of get why people on this forum do "fraud" and have liberal morals, they know hard work doesn't get you shit, 'if you cant beat em, join em'. If am am being honest, I am not going to be employed for more than 5 years, I am not the type to value my time at such low rates, and I am not good people having dominion over me, especially if they are unremarkable (given most jobs are "pesudo-productive" for the economy and mankind, and are largely fake and can be easily displaced by machines), yes I sound like a pretentious twat, I am not a dickhead or anything (at least I try to not be).

The topics I mentioned I am pursuing are genuine interests that I am better than I am genuinely good at and know how to monetize, not some stupid idea from a "side hustle tiktok". Correct me if I am wrong but is the current technique I am doing right now: finding my best skills and most monetizable skills, then focusing on them until I succeed (or realise I am dumb) a good approach to making money? Since long term failure may happen by chance, if I do end up as a failure at 26, I will probably just do the ez money "breached" way since I know how

Your friend is still a wage slave, refunding still takes time and time is money. He's basically just earning $/hr

He may also be projected to earn that much but there is no guarantee that he actually will, refunding is basically chump shit, and chumps get scraps.

While he does this his skills are stagnating, he's not trying to progress onto anything bigger or developer his skills for a real job, feel free to indulge like him, but don't make it your main side hustle, try to do some of that freelance stuff you mentioned.

(November 3, 2022, 05:36 PM)ArchersAreCool Wrote: Hi, I'm 16, my friend is doing refunding (using an FTID Lost In Transit method, then selling said item on the second hand market) and has dropped out of school completely, he is projected to make about £35k/ annum, this really hit a switch in me, if I am honest I felt extremely jealous since he is making money illegitimately, and he is a complete skid and lacks a lot of knowledge, however the thing is, I am well within the means to start doing refunding as I have the knowledge of how to do it and the contacts to facilitate it, on the other hand I doubt I will ever pursue anything morally questionable, or stealing from the "common man". He is also using his home address, which in kind of dumb.

So what would you do if you were in my situation?, I 100% have much more marketable and lucrative skills than your average teen and could pursue legitimate work (self-employed or working for someone) once I finish higher education. Personally, I would only pursue anything like this if I hit rock bottom and I became a (real) wage slave. What is the possibility of getting caught (for fraud and tax evasion, I doubt anyone is declaring criminal gains on their taxes), are there legal punishments (UK), one more thing is that yes £35k isn't that much, however for a 16-year-old that is like heaven since it will be compounding until adulthood since he has no expenses, I am also currently trying to make money legitimately through YouTube, freelancing, SaaS, ill probably focus on the one that I am most passionate about and is the most successful

Howfar bro. I sent you a pm, i want to learn something from you.

(November 4, 2022, 05:24 PM)modibbo55 Wrote:

(November 3, 2022, 05:36 PM)ArchersAreCool Wrote: Hi, I'm 16, my friend is doing refunding (using an FTID Lost In Transit method, then selling said item on the second hand market) and has dropped out of school completely, he is projected to make about £35k/ annum, this really hit a switch in me, if I am honest I felt extremely jealous since he is making money illegitimately, and he is a complete skid and lacks a lot of knowledge, however the thing is, I am well within the means to start doing refunding as I have the knowledge of how to do it and the contacts to facilitate it, on the other hand I doubt I will ever pursue anything morally questionable, or stealing from the "common man". He is also using his home address, which in kind of dumb.

So what would you do if you were in my situation?, I 100% have much more marketable and lucrative skills than your average teen and could pursue legitimate work (self-employed or working for someone) once I finish higher education. Personally, I would only pursue anything like this if I hit rock bottom and I became a (real) wage slave. What is the possibility of getting caught (for fraud and tax evasion, I doubt anyone is declaring criminal gains on their taxes), are there legal punishments (UK), one more thing is that yes £35k isn't that much, however for a 16-year-old that is like heaven since it will be compounding until adulthood since he has no expenses, I am also currently trying to make money legitimately through YouTube, freelancing, SaaS, ill probably focus on the one that I am most passionate about and is the most successful

Howfar bro. I sent you a pm, i want to learn something from you.

You didn't send me a PM mate

(November 4, 2022, 05:29 PM)ArchersAreCool Wrote:

(November 4, 2022, 05:24 PM)modibbo55 Wrote:

(November 3, 2022, 05:36 PM)ArchersAreCool Wrote: Hi, I'm 16, my friend is doing refunding (using an FTID Lost In Transit method, then selling said item on the second hand market) and has dropped out of school completely, he is projected to make about £35k/ annum, this really hit a switch in me, if I am honest I felt extremely jealous since he is making money illegitimately, and he is a complete skid and lacks a lot of knowledge, however the thing is, I am well within the means to start doing refunding as I have the knowledge of how to do it and the contacts to facilitate it, on the other hand I doubt I will ever pursue anything morally questionable, or stealing from the "common man". He is also using his home address, which in kind of dumb.

So what would you do if you were in my situation?, I 100% have much more marketable and lucrative skills than your average teen and could pursue legitimate work (self-employed or working for someone) once I finish higher education. Personally, I would only pursue anything like this if I hit rock bottom and I became a (real) wage slave. What is the possibility of getting caught (for fraud and tax evasion, I doubt anyone is declaring criminal gains on their taxes), are there legal punishments (UK), one more thing is that yes £35k isn't that much, however for a 16-year-old that is like heaven since it will be compounding until adulthood since he has no expenses, I am also currently trying to make money legitimately through YouTube, freelancing, SaaS, ill probably focus on the one that I am most passionate about and is the most successful

Howfar bro. I sent you a pm, i want to learn something from you.

You didn't send me a PM mate

Check your pm, i did that just now.

Mate, if you got the drive and think you're capable, why not just give it a shot?

(November 4, 2022, 05:37 PM)Dredgen Sun Wrote: Mate, if you got the drive and think you're capable, why not just give it a shot?

Are you referring to me doing refunding and the sort, or doing what I am good at?