A big issue is a lot of morons run kali as their main distro which is a bad idea considering the insane amount of (often unnecessary) programs on the OS. Previously as well, it basically defaulted to root user so you'd have idiots running their daily OS as full root which is about the worst thing you can do from an opsec perspective.

As for learning its not bad to get off the ground and learn some tools, but the more you learn the more you should just install the tools on a regular distro as needed. Kali abstracts you from the normal linux stuff which ends up making you a script kiddie.

I tend to view Kali as a buzzword used by skids who want to sound like hackers to people.

kali just to many tools
u never use higher 10
add repo debian
install what u need
use kali just say u not know ur need

(March 25, 2022, 03:58 AM)onesandzeros Wrote: kali just to many tools
u never use higher 10
add repo debian
install what u need
use kali just say u not know ur need

Let's be honest, metapackage Kali Light is the way to go !

However, I don't really care having the usual metapackage, I prefer having all my tools ready than saving 4 GB on my hard disk. Everything is into VM.

if you know what you need, you don't have to use kali.
Kali is just handsome because it has a lot of tools in one place.
the main advantage of linux OS is that ppl can make the OS themself and adapt it to their work ...
I may be wrong, this is my opinion... but certain linux OS are becoming more demanding and complex and there is no need to burden the laptop with unnecessary things that we never use

(March 25, 2022, 03:50 PM)cy0dagga77 Wrote: if you know what you need, you don't have to use kali.
Kali is just handsome because it has a lot of tools in one place.
the main advantage of linux OS is that ppl can make the OS themself and adapt it to their work ...
I may be wrong, this is my opinion... but certain linux OS are becoming more demanding and complex and there is no need to burden the laptop with unnecessary things that we never use

I mean yeah but most of time i have kali in vm cuz if some glowies come kicking my door i can just delete the vm and as u mentioned if u know what u need u dont need kali but if u are lazy to install tools then its really great

Nice to have many tools in 1 OS.
don't make it unncessarily hard on yourself peeps, go with Kali

(March 25, 2022, 03:57 PM)Infinite Wrote:

(March 25, 2022, 03:50 PM)cy0dagga77 Wrote: if you know what you need, you don't have to use kali.
Kali is just handsome because it has a lot of tools in one place.
the main advantage of linux OS is that ppl can make the OS themself and adapt it to their work ...
I may be wrong, this is my opinion... but certain linux OS are becoming more demanding and complex and there is no need to burden the laptop with unnecessary things that we never use

I mean yeah but most of time i have kali in vm cuz if some glowies come kicking my door i can just delete the vm and as u mentioned if u know what u need u dont need kali but if u are lazy to install tools then its really great

Unfortunately, if someone knocks on our door, then it's too late to adjust or to delete the VM.

but, yeah on one side agree with you..
also if we're worried that someone will knocking on our door ... then it's better to use a protected remote server, with multiple virtual machines for different purposes.

(March 25, 2022, 12:01 AM)huzorg Wrote: Oh, now am gettin' hold of it,  but typical they say "kali will make you have a hard time, find and easy distro",  you got an opposition or proposal to that?

If you break something in your OS and don't know how to unbreak it, you are more likely to find relevant support topics for more mainstream distros like Ubuntu than you are for Kali.

Personally I think the "kali is not for beginners" advice is bs. Many people start on kali and gravitate away from it with experience once they realize they only use 5% of the tools that come with it, which can just be installed on any other distro. Some stay with kali anyway just for convenience of course.

(March 25, 2022, 04:36 PM)Minori Wrote:

(March 24, 2022, 11:52 PM)huzorg Wrote: I wonder why forums be like,  when an OP asks for help and he/she says I uses kali,  they be like nooo that's not for you,  but seriously I myself started with with kali... I  find no big diffrence from other distros

[1] > Kali is not a day-to-day OS for many reasons like your main user being root, the repo is missing many essential packages used by many day-to-day programs, the huge amount of disk space all of it's programs take up, the huge amount of processes running in the background causing severe lag on slower / weaker machines

[2] > Kali is a buzzword for people who want to sound like they know what they are doing

[3] > Kali is not similar to other linux distros, mainly because it doesn't have a lot of features, packages and other things normal distros have because you simply don't need them.

^^^ Yes, this. I think n00bz get the wrong impression because maybe they watched Mr Robot or something, but it's a box of tools for people who have a use for the tools.

(Not denigrating newbies. I am a perpetual n00b every single day)