(November 4, 2022, 05:43 PM)Dredgen Sun Wrote:

(November 3, 2022, 05:19 PM)phillybilli Wrote:

(November 3, 2022, 03:09 PM)Dredgen Sun Wrote: Yes. It's understanding systemic and institutional problems that affect those of different race without experiencing it. But it's also contextual in regards to where you are in the world, if you're in a White majority country that pushes brown people who are fleeing war that try to come into a country that's removed all it's safe passages for migrants, then yes, White Privilege is a thing in that country.

I am not sure I can fully agree, what about white people that are fleeing a war and are refused an entry to country with majority of white population? Using my own experience I feel as it more related to the nationality not a race.

The UK actually set up a migration effort almost immediately when the Ukraine war started, and wanted people to volunteer to take Ukrainians into their homes. Which hammers home my point that a white country experiencing war that is actually a regional conflict set up safe passages for white europeans to come over, but will always push those boats with brown people back out to sea. Daytime talk radio in the UK is full of people who phone in to say that the English Channel should have army boats and sharks to stop all the brown people coming over who are fleeing war, and using the 'why not france?' but with Ukraine, everything is permitted.

Oddly enough... just before the war in Ukraine started, there were people fleeing the war in Syria, the war in Yemen and those fleeing from the chaotic withdrawal of USA from Afghanistan. A lot of those people were stranded in boats off the coast of eu countries or stuck between the Belarus/Poland border... with Poland refusing them entry.  As soon the Ukrainians arrived, every EU country quickly accommodated them in ways never seen before with the other refugees.

(November 7, 2022, 11:40 AM)phillybilli Wrote:

(November 4, 2022, 05:43 PM)Dredgen Sun Wrote:

(November 3, 2022, 05:19 PM)phillybilli Wrote:

(November 3, 2022, 03:09 PM)Dredgen Sun Wrote: Yes. It's understanding systemic and institutional problems that affect those of different race without experiencing it. But it's also contextual in regards to where you are in the world, if you're in a White majority country that pushes brown people who are fleeing war that try to come into a country that's removed all it's safe passages for migrants, then yes, White Privilege is a thing in that country.

I am not sure I can fully agree, what about white people that are fleeing a war and are refused an entry to country with majority of white population? Using my own experience I feel as it more related to the nationality not a race.

The UK actually set up a migration effort almost immediately when the Ukraine war started, and wanted people to volunteer to take Ukrainians into their homes. Which hammers home my point that a white country experiencing war that is actually a regional conflict set up safe passages for white europeans to come over, but will always push those boats with brown people back out to sea. Daytime talk radio in the UK is full of people who phone in to say that the English Channel should have army boats and sharks to stop all the brown people coming over who are fleeing war, and using the 'why not france?' but with Ukraine, everything is permitted.

From the outside it will look like that. I saw the bigger picture and it has more to do with the culture and the terms that were put in order for Ukrainians to come to UK; radio stations that I listened to ignore that. Look more into Ukrainian culture and patriotism, majority of the people that came to UK will not stay here forever, it is the cultural thing. I saw the same with people from Carib regions that came to Holland; strong family values in Caribbean made them go back home once their education was finished. When the war is over and Ukranine will win, Ukrainians will go back home, again it is cultural thing. Eastern European mindset is similar from the one in the West of the Europe what makes easier to adapt. From my prespective, people who are coming to the UK in the boats are not escpaping war, the boats come from France, as far as I am aware there is no war in France. I always wondered, why people who travel in the boats from Calais do not go to Brit Embassy in France or any other EU country they crossed through? If I would in need this would be the first thing I would do and if Embassy would refuse to help me for sure I would go to media and show the prove that British Embassy ignored me etc., I have never read that any of the migrants from the boats tried doing so.

There are Ukrainians who are not planning to go back... in fact, they're waiting for the martial law to end so that the husbands/fathers that are currently trapped in Ukraine can move to join their families in other EU countries. There was a recent article in The Guardian to that effect

(November 3, 2022, 07:41 AM)dipper Wrote: Is white privilege real?

It can be in certain places, but overall every race tends to give there own a nepotistic bump. If you asked the white people in South Africa if it was they would probably say no. You don't see it much when your in North America but other places in the world where darker skinned people are more in touch with there homelands culture and spirituality they are more likely to hire darker skinned people. And that's all fair and good as long as they allow others to do the same and they are not outright hostile to other races. A lot of perceived racism is in fact just nepotism, that is giving the position to your friends and family. That's why most industries are dominated by everybody of the same race. MacDonalds was once dominated by white people, now it's all East Indians. And suprise, the company was sold by the caucasian founder to an East Indian some time ago. The steal mills in my town, all East Indian, and I actually met the owner who is East Indian himself. Working in a steal mill is a shitty job but that's where his buddies can get work. He probably gets his employees from a house of worship that he donated to or something similar. In my experience, white male privilege is not exactly what people think it is. You have to read the wisdom works of the Bible to get a good grasp. Especially Ecclesiastes. The whole message behind that book was that the best man does not always win. So what happens to the loser? The loser must live in a state of playing the game of life on the hardest setting from there on out. If he survives the hardship, he will most certainly surpass all the people who were not challenged. I lived in poverty for years and most of the great business ideas I had came about not by being rich enough to afford them, but by being poor enough to have to grow or die. In essence, falling thru society's cracks can sometimes be a baptism of fire. That's if it does not kill you.

As a white person, I pretty much know for certain I will never work in a produce department. Only Asians and middle Easterners get those jobs in my city. Produce is not the highest paying job, but it's an easy job, I would certainly take it if I was ever offered. I will probably never work in a Chinese food restaurant unless I'm the delivery guy. Probably never work in a computer store unless I start my own. No best buy. Nowhere in the food courts at the mall. But you know the more I am stopped from working in these places, the more time I spend unemployed, and that's where the magic happens. You cannot start a business working for someone else. And as the job opportunities go down for white people, the more of them will eather overdose on fyntanal, or rise to truly powerful positions. My life has gotten pretty good since I stopped working and it just keeps getting better as time goes by. Beat drugs, found ways of getting money without a job, became enlightened, the doors keep swinging open for me. But I remember how many times I almost met my doom to get here.

White privilege is real, imagine (if you're white) living with all the problems you currently have but also random people hate you, like HATE hate. Murder hate.

However, it pales in comparison with class privilege. Billionaire vs non-billionaire type of stuff. That's why it's in the best interest of billionaires to act like white privilege is a bigger deal than it is, and spread that mindset around.

(November 3, 2022, 09:34 AM)meggs Wrote: In Asia - yes. They love white people. Look at this commercial

I agree, Asians are the most racist people I know, I have some friends who always make comments about brown people in their countries. Not only can they make comments about people in general, but they emphasize this difference as much as possible.

(November 3, 2022, 09:34 AM)meggs Wrote: In Asia - yes. They love white people. Look at this commercial

LMAO what is this lol

I think it’s regional. Probably exists in small pockets around the world or USA

(November 11, 2022, 01:19 AM)nobuhi Wrote: White privilege is real, imagine (if you're white) living with all the problems you currently have but also random people hate you, like HATE hate. Murder hate.

However, it pales in comparison with class privilege. Billionaire vs non-billionaire type of stuff. That's why it's in the best interest of billionaires to act like white privilege is a bigger deal than it is, and spread that mindset around.

You hit the nail on the head there friend, Class priv is the dome with everything under it. Solve Class problems, every other problem around people will eventually be solved too.

I do still think it is real, at least for my country, I would say some or many people here still treat them like a king, regardless what nationality are you, as long as you are white, you are the king to many of them

I'm not sure what you mean by "white privilege." If you're asking if white people have an easier time in life because they're white, then I would say yes. If you're asking if white people are automatically better off than people of color, then I would say no.