Hello fellow BF users, 
this is my first thread and it comes with an doubt which probably is dumb but it's still an doubt of myself.

How do you code your malwares on Windows with the dumb Windows Defender activating for anything you code and refusing to save your files because it "contains a virus". I tried to save my python RAT even on a .txt and it just does not save, it's so frustrating. 
I know some of you will say just deactivate Windows Defender and other some will say just use Linux but for those two I have two different answers. 
1. For those whom says "just deactivate Windows Defender", even though Windows Defender can be quite useless I still enjoy the little security it provides and I like it being active, so, my concern is if when I reactivate it, it excludes my malware code files.
2. For those whom says "just use Linux", I like coding on the OS I'm making code for, so, as I code Windows malwares and not Linux ones I rather use Windows instead of Linux.
I don't think VM's would be practical for me because my computer is a piece of shit and it will slow down my process to much. 

Anyway, thank you for those whom may answer me, even the troll ones. 

I know it might not be much but you can create an exclusion in windows defender just for one folder or file so that windows defender did not check it after being activated again.

Maybe you could try cloud environment editor for an option eg: https://codeanywhere.com

An exclusion is a good idea. Learning C# to get past Defender works too.

Actually Windows Defender is kinda interesting even tho it has some hard cons

I think you should go with low level languages

(July 29, 2022, 09:11 AM)JustUser1001 Wrote: I know it might not be much but you can create an exclusion in windows defender just for one folder or file so that windows defender did not check it after being activated again.

Sorry for the late reply, I was waiting for my daily replies come back, I did it and it worked just fine, thank you a lot mate

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(July 29, 2022, 03:16 PM)Ch3ssMast3r Wrote: An exclusion is a good idea. Learning C# to get past Defender works too.

I'm studying C# and .NET currently but I don't think I have such an expertise on the language for writing malwares on it but I thank you for your suggestion

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(July 29, 2022, 04:46 PM)brodu51 Wrote: Actually Windows Defender is kinda interesting even tho it has some hard cons

Yeah, I think it's kinda underrated how it sometimes can prevent you from being infected and some shit, specially if you don't have an hardened system

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(July 29, 2022, 09:16 PM)davMich Wrote: I think you should go with low level languages

I know low level languages malware are way better than the ones written on high level languages but I'm not on the same tier of knowledge with C/C++ or Rust that I'm with Python

Welcome matey,

you can start from here, pick a target and then learn, you can't conquer all at once.

https://github.com/Endermanch/MalwareDatabase

https://github.com/ytisf/theZoo

https://github.com/Da2dalus/The-MALWARE-Repo

https://github.com/vxunderground/MalwareSourceCode

(July 30, 2022, 05:00 AM)xinwong Wrote: Welcome matey,

you can start from here, pick a target and then learn, you can't conquer all at once.

https://github.com/Endermanch/MalwareDatabase

https://github.com/ytisf/theZoo

https://github.com/Da2dalus/The-MALWARE-Repo

https://github.com/vxunderground/MalwareSourceCode

Thank you for the share mate, I'll star those repos and hopefully I'll learn a lot from them

and thank you for the quote, I'll sure remember it, can't conquer all at once.

(July 30, 2022, 05:11 AM)makipit Wrote:

(July 30, 2022, 05:00 AM)xinwong Wrote: Welcome matey,

you can start from here, pick a target and then learn, you can't conquer all at once.

https://github.com/Endermanch/MalwareDatabase

https://github.com/ytisf/theZoo

https://github.com/Da2dalus/The-MALWARE-Repo

https://github.com/vxunderground/MalwareSourceCode

Thank you for the share mate, I'll star those repos and hopefully I'll learn a lot from them

and thank you for the quote, I'll sure remember it, can't conquer all at once.

Start with these books and learn network fundamentals, even before you start programming or along with programming - you choose your pace:

Good luck!! And apart from these, I would suggest you to start with "Cryptovirology", find it, search it and work on it, it is much better. I dont know if anyone sees this or not but, try to start working from here and then get into these books.

Books List -
1. Practical Malware Analysis: The Hands-On Guide to Dissecting Malicious Software
2. Computer Viruses and Malware
3. Malware: Fighting Malicious Code
4. Malware Analysis: Complete Self-Assessment Guide
5. Learning Malware Analysis: Explore the Concepts, Tools, and Techniques to Analyze and Investigate Windows Malware
6. Malware Diffusion Models for Modern Complex Networks: Theory and Applications
7. Anti-Malware Scanning The Ultimate Step-By-Step Guide
8. Intrusion Detection Networks: A Key to Collaborative Security
9. Advanced Malware Forensics Investigation Guide

Along with this learn wireshark as well.

If you are really into malware design, then I would suggest you to keep patience, and start working on this, and don't expect to be master everything in a week. things take time, all the things that I have listed here will take 10-14 months (I hope you would have other things to do in life as well) to completely understand and implement a system design for a target.

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Mate, I have worked with mac systems for 7 years, it does not matter which OpSys you use, the only thing is you begin something and create a VM to test everything in it.